It is the natural progression though. If you have to eliminate all the things that are "bad" for you, you can't stop at smoking. You have to eliminate everything that is "bad" right?
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Does your preacher smoke cigars?
- Thread starter truckinusa
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It is the natural progression though. If you have to eliminate all the things that are "bad" for you, you can't stop at smoking. You have to eliminate everything that is "bad" right?
BarneyBandMan
BBQ is not a verb!
Our very own SmokeyJoe, a man of the Clergy loves cigars. He's the only Holy Man I've met that I consider a friend.
I couldn't agree more :ss
csbrewfisher
Maturing Primate
First, these scriptures have nothing to do with eliminating "bad" things from your personal life habits.It is the natural progression though. If you have to eliminate all the things that are "bad" for you, you can't stop at smoking. You have to eliminate everything that is "bad" right?
Second, too much of anything is bad for you...anything. If taken to the "inevitable conclusion"...then we should all just lay down on the ground and die. I can assure you that most Christians do not believe this, probably most religious people of any faith.
It's like this. Every person who eats carrots has died, or will die. Therefore...stop eating carrots, right? I don't think so, or at least the Amish vampire in me doesn't think so.
:ss
First, these scriptures have nothing to do with eliminating "bad" things from your personal life habits.
Second, too much of anything is bad for you...anything. If taken to the "inevitable conclusion"...then we should all just lay down on the ground and die. I can assure you that most Christians do not believe this, probably most religious people of any faith.
It's like this. Every person who eats carrots has died, or will die. Therefore...stop eating carrots, right? I don't think so, or at least the Amish vampire in me doesn't think so.
:ss
My point is that if you decide that these Scriptures mean that smoking is a sin because you are defiling the temple why stop there?
csbrewfisher
Maturing Primate
OK, if you decide that, then I can understand the point. I'm glad that nobody here thinks that way though...except for the Amish vampires.My point is that if you decide that these Scriptures mean that smoking is a sin because you are defiling the temple why stop there?
:tu
OK, if you decide that, then I can understand the point. I'm glad that nobody here thinks that way though...except for the Amish vampires.
:tu
So we can stop arguing while basically agreeing?
I find the extremist interpretation to be rather convenient. We don't like smoking so therefore it must be a sin.
csbrewfisher
Maturing Primate
Or drinking, dancing, or playing cards, or going to movies, or drinking coffee, or observing birthdays, or shaving your beard, or allowing a man to see any exposed skin. *Sigh*So we can stop arguing while basically agreeing?
I find the extremist interpretation to be rather convenient. We don't like smoking so therefore it must be a sin.
If anyone finds a perfect church, be sure to let me know before I join in and ruin it.
Or drinking, dancing, or playing cards, or going to movies, or drinking coffee, or observing birthdays, or shaving your beard, or allowing a man to see any exposed skin. *Sigh*
If anyone finds a perfect church, be sure to let me know before I join in and ruin it.
My idea of the perfect Church requires that there be no sermons ever. If the Word of God is perfect why do we need someone to sermonize It? A class would teach proper Bible study technique but you find your own beliefs. If you have questions a senior member will give you all the Scripture that relates to your question but no interpretation. A Church service is singing, testimonies, and Scripture reading. Nothing more. Anyone interested in the Plan of Salvation can talk to a counselor after the service.
butterbeezy
Evolving Lead Gorilla
I know a priest who smokes cigars. I found out because he talked about it in a sermon one day. I also went to catholic school and a priest there smoked a pipe.
Wow...someone needs to add their thoughts to the "What are you drinking" thread.
Back to the original topic that this post was created for:
Yes, my father-n-law and he's a pastor. After learning he had enjoyed cigars back in the day and showing some curiosity with my humidor - my wife & me ordered him a couple of 5'ers - he's hooked and enjoying the leaf more than ever now - heard he smoked a few through Hurrican Ike that hit the Houston area - they had no power but he had his cigar at night.
Now, I just have to get him into a few local B&M's and help him with options.
Back to the original topic that this post was created for:
Yes, my father-n-law and he's a pastor. After learning he had enjoyed cigars back in the day and showing some curiosity with my humidor - my wife & me ordered him a couple of 5'ers - he's hooked and enjoying the leaf more than ever now - heard he smoked a few through Hurrican Ike that hit the Houston area - they had no power but he had his cigar at night.
Now, I just have to get him into a few local B&M's and help him with options.
PerpetualNoob
Young Ape
My idea of the perfect Church requires that there be no sermons ever. If the Word of God is perfect why do we need someone to sermonize It? A class would teach proper Bible study technique but you find your own beliefs. If you have questions a senior member will give you all the Scripture that relates to your question but no interpretation. A Church service is singing, testimonies, and Scripture reading. Nothing more. Anyone interested in the Plan of Salvation can talk to a counselor after the service.
I don't need anyone to tell me what God said, or to tell God what I said. - The Reformation, Reader's Digest.
leasingthisspace
4 chat go to extras
I think we should try and stay with the OP.
http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1894101&postcount=4
If the shoe fits wear it is what I was always told.
http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1894101&postcount=4
If the shoe fits wear it is what I was always told.
I think we should try and stay with the OP.
http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1894101&postcount=4
If the shoe fits wear it is what I was always told.
Good call!!!:tu
This one hasn't got out of hand as of yet!!! But it does have potential
csbrewfisher
Maturing Primate
I agree that we need to stay with the OP.Good call!!!:tu
This one hasn't got out of hand as of yet!!! But it does have potential
I saw my pastor (and friend) last night, and we made plans to get together on Thursday out on my deck for a cigar and a beer. I have a Perdomo Lot23 waiting for him.
:ss