UPS Store told me shipping cigars was "illegal"

emelbee

Lowland Gorilla
I never ship anything by UPS, but I've got a great delivery guy. It's the same guy all the time. He brought me a lot of good cigars last year, and I gave him a nice tip at Christmas. He's friendly and takes good care of me.

I sent some cigars to Afghanistan last year via USPS. When I told the clerk what was in the package, she tried her darndest to find a rule that I couldn't ship cigars there, and was clearly disappointed when she couldn't refuse my package.
 

ChasDen

Master of the Chasidor
UPS can send a 1 pound package from 90210 to 06032 in 2-3 days for 4.80?
Lets see:
Ship From: 90210, UNITED STATES Ship To: 06032, UNITED STATES
Shipment Date: Monday, April 28, 2008 Total Shipment Weight: 1 lbs.

UPS 3 Day Select®

Billable Weight: 1.0 lbs.
3 By End of Day
Thursday
May 1, 2008 16.44 USD*


UPS 2nd Day Air®


Billable Weight: 1.0 lbs.
2 By End of Day
Wednesday
April 30, 2008 21.63 USD*
And thats the com rate not res,

Guess the answer is no.

Chas
 

groogs

Alpha Silverback
And that's why I don't use UPS, slower than USPS, less reliable than USPS and more expensive than USPS.
:tpd: All the way, I hate UPS. They never leave the Package at my door, and I always have to go to the local UPS Hub and pick up my package. it is always a pain in the A$$.
 

RaiderinKS

Lowland Gorilla
:tpd: All the way, I hate UPS. They never leave the Package at my door, and I always have to go to the local UPS Hub and pick up my package. it is always a pain in the A$$.


Probably because:

A) you live in an apartment
B) there is no place to leave it where it will not be in plain view from the street
c) the person who lived there before liked to file bogus theft claims, and your address is still on file


Edit: Furthermore, some jackasses like you just dont get it. UPS is not only responsible to the receiver, but also the sender. If they leave something and it disappears, they have to pay the shipper for it. The whole world does not revolve around you.
 

ChasDen

Master of the Chasidor
Edit: Furthermore, some jackasses like you just dont get it.
WOW his first response to the thread was to agree with another poster, simply stated they never leave the package at his door, for whatever reason.

And BTW IT IS A PAIN IN THE A$$ to go to the hub, for what ever reason.

That makes him a Jackass?

Chas
 
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fireman43

Elder Jungle A-Hole
Probably because:

A) you live in an apartment
B) there is no place to leave it where it will not be in plain view from the street
c) the person who lived there before liked to file bogus theft claims, and your address is still on file


Edit: Furthermore, some jackasses like you just dont get it. UPS is not only responsible to the receiver, but also the sender. If they leave something and it disappears, they have to pay the shipper for it. The whole world does not revolve around you.
No does it revolve around UPS. Seems like every time someone disagrees with your beloved UPS, you have an issue with it. Disagreements are one thing, but resorting to name calling because someone has their own opinion that doesn't coincide with yours.....Well, maybe you ought to think a little before you hit "submit reply". And before all you monkeys go shouting "community policing", save it. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I call em like I see em, and that jackass comment was very uncalled for. I have reported the post as well, and the admin team has been made aware, so 5 more pages of useless posts like mine are not really needed.:tu
 

RaiderinKS

Lowland Gorilla
No does it revolve around UPS. Seems like every time someone disagrees with your beloved UPS, you have an issue with it. Disagreements are one thing, but resorting to name calling because someone has their own opinion that doesn't coincide with yours.....Well, maybe you ought to think a little before you hit "submit reply". And before all you monkeys go shouting "community policing", save it. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I call em like I see em, and that jackass comment was very uncalled for. I have reported the post as well, and the admin team has been made aware, so 5 more pages of useless posts like mine are not really needed.:tu



Posts like his irk me because they violate the nature of a well meaning, critical consumer. Instead he says he:

1) Hates UPS
2) because they never leave his stuff there
3) he has to go pickup his stuff at the hub

He does not give any reason or even allude to any kind of facts about why these conditions exist for him and not everyone else. It gets old that companies in the shipping industry get treated worse than anyone else out there by people.

And no, the world does NOT revolve around UPS (I dont work there anymore btw). But they are under a contractual agreement to not only get you your stuff (its not really your stuff, its the shippers stuff) but to also protect the shippers goods. PEOPLE THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS BASIC PRINCIPLE STRIKE ME AS BEING UNINTELLIGENT, AND THEY PISS ME OFF FROM TIME TO TIME. Does that warrant me calling him a jackass? Maybe, maybe not. Reasonable people could disagree on that debate. Either way, I am sorry I hurt your little feelings, and I will make my peace with him since what I did is so terrible.
 

poker

Its ok, just blame me.
Posts like his irk me because they violate the nature of a well meaning, critical consumer. Instead he says he:

1) Hates UPS
2) because they never leave his stuff there
3) he has to go pickup his stuff at the hub

He does not give any reason or even allude to any kind of facts about why these conditions exist for him and not everyone else. It gets old that companies in the shipping industry get treated worse than anyone else out there by people.

And no, the world does NOT revolve around UPS (I dont work there anymore btw). But they are under a contractual agreement to not only get you your stuff (its not really your stuff, its the shippers stuff) but to also protect the shippers goods. PEOPLE THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS BASIC PRINCIPLE STRIKE ME AS BEING UNINTELLIGENT, AND THEY PISS ME OFF FROM TIME TO TIME. Does that warrant me calling him a jackass? Maybe, maybe not. Reasonable people could disagree on that debate. Either way, I am sorry I hurt your little feelings, and I will make my peace with him since what I did is so terrible.
I suggest you do because people who respond this way basically strike me as unintelligent, and they piss me off from time to time.
 
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Addiction

Gentleman Jim Stogie
OK I could be wrong here, but I dont think it maters what method you send them the original point is still correct. I do believe USPS is not supposed to curry alcohol, tobacco or firearms between private parties.
 

Tenor CS

ChestBeater
First of all I hope you didn't buy the packing material at the UPS store. They wanted to charge me $7.00 for a box and peanuts.
Well, the box was only $2.00. I have another package of 5 cigars going out on Monday. I've got it all set up and ready to go. I food-saved the cigars into one long bag. I actually don't vacuum-pack them, as the air caught in there seems to cushion the cigars nicely. To fill out the box, I used the products of my handy-dandy paper shredder. And THIS package is going out via USPS.
 

goatfarmer

ChestBeater
Shipped PIF trade via USPS thurs., priority mail, and z3ro posted in the PIF forum he received the package friday, albeit to neighboring state, just seemed super quick to me. Interesting part is I decided to re-package the item at the post office and the clerk helped pack the cigars, wonder if he could be charged with 'aid and abetting'. :r
 

ChasDen

Master of the Chasidor
OK I could be wrong here, but I dont think it maters what method you send them the original point is still correct. I do believe USPS is not supposed to curry alcohol, tobacco or firearms between private parties.
I don't think so. I found this interesting read:

Some tobacco-related transactions conducted over the Internet are fulfilled by shipping the products through the Postal Service. Therefore, policymakers concerned about unlawful tobacco sales have requested that the Postal Service take action to reduce the ability of tobacco retailers to use the Postal Service for illicit sales.

Although tobacco products are presently eligible to be entered into the mail, we are committed to working with state, local, and federal officials to combat illegal tobacco transactions. The Postal Service has taken several steps using our existing authority to address this issue, such as information sharing with foreign posts, and collaborating with ongoing law enforcement initiatives to prosecute illegal activity.

Priority Mail, which is often used for shipping tobacco, is sealed against inspection. Therefore a federal search warrant or consent would be needed to open these packages. Unless the mailer voluntarily discloses that a package contains nonmailable matter, generally the only way to determine whether it contains unlawful contents is to open the package.

We are aware that proposed legislation would make tobacco nonmailable. If Congress is to pursue this path, we recommend that nonmailability language be included in Title 18 of the US Code, rather than Title 39.
From APRIL 24, 2008
( STATEMENT BEFORE COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM )

Long read but interesting.

Chas
 

MarkinCA

SilverBack
Whenever I place my box on the USPS counter and they ask that question "Is there any items in the box that are perishable, breakable, etc", I just say "no", because it is none of their damn business what I'm mailing to another person period.

That reminds me that on Thurday this week on my return flight from Sacramento, I was standing at the Southwest Airline counter checking in and showed the young lady my return ticket and drivers license. She asked me if I was "armed" and I asked "What?", and she said "Are you armed sir?" and I anwered "I guess so" as I held up both of my arms that were attached to my body for her to see. It got her to give me a big ol' :D ...:D:D:D
 

z3ro

Drunken Monkey
Whenever I place my box on the USPS counter and they ask that question "Is there any items in the box that are perishable, breakable, etc", I just say "no", because it is none of their damn business what I'm mailing to another person period.

That reminds me that on Thurday this week on my return flight from Sacramento, I was standing at the Southwest Airline counter checking in and showed the young lady my return ticket and drivers license. She asked me if I was "armed" and I asked "What?", and she said "Are you armed sir?" and I anwered "I guess so" as I held up both of my arms that were attached to my body for her to see. It got her to give me a big ol' :D ...:D:D:D
I'd be worried about getting arrested
 

Addiction

Gentleman Jim Stogie
I'd be worried about getting arrested
I once told the counter lady back when they asked if you packed your own bag that a gentleman packed it for but he was so busy muttering about "death to the infidels" that I forgot to ask his name. That comic gem lead to the longest 4 hour questioning period of my life LOL.
 
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