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413X

Young Ape
I've read on here that some people's Vinotemps can be off by a few degrees on the setting of the temperature. The problem is, mine seems to be off by 10-11 degrees!:hn Could this be true, or could it be the hygro/thermometer I got from heartfelt? I calibrated the humidity on the heartfelt meter but as far as I can tell there isn't a way to set the temp part.

Please help!!!:confused:


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413X

Young Ape
The problem is, I've got the thing set on 57 degrees to reach an internal of 68. I just don't want to be over cooling my smokes, or over running the Vino.
 

cubanplz

Newbie in the jungle
The problem is, I've got the thing set on 57 degrees to reach an internal of 68. I just don't want to be over cooling my smokes, or over running the Vino.

You wont hurt the unit having it running often. Also, you cant really over cool your smokes. People actually stick them in a freezer and freeze them solid.
The only downside to having the vino running often is the RH swing from it pulling in outside air and having to empty the drip pan often. Just keep playing with it till you find the butter zone. mine is pretty stable at 65, 65 right now. The display on the front of my vino says 60. so today, its 5 degrees off.
 

rack04

Addie's Daddy
The problem is the efficency of the vinotemp. It has no chance to cool down to 57. Set it to 66 and see what it reads. What is your ambient temp?

From the manufacturers website

Maximum ambient room temperature 77°F
 

NoValidTitle

Young Ape
I dont think any actual air exchanges in the cooling process.
I'm pretty sure the air does not exchange in a thermoelectric situation it's just an electric element that gets cold on one side and warm on the other. The warm side is where the heat sink is on the back and the other side is where the fan is running air across the cooling element side, it should be sealed.
 

pbrennan10

Softball Pitcher
I'm pretty sure the air does not exchange in a thermoelectric situation it's just an electric element that gets cold on one side and warm on the other. The warm side is where the heat sink is on the back and the other side is where the fan is running air across the cooling element side, it should be sealed.
quod erat demonstrandum
 

jkorp

·~«{·B'lieve Hon·}»~·
You wont hurt the unit having it running often. Also, you cant really over cool your smokes. People actually stick them in a freezer and freeze them solid.
The only downside to having the vino running often is the RH swing from it pulling in outside air and having to empty the drip pan often. Just keep playing with it till you find the butter zone. mine is pretty stable at 65, 65 right now. The display on the front of my vino says 60. so today, its 5 degrees off.
I dont think any actual air exchanges in the cooling process.
Correct, there is no air exchange. The RH drops because the cooling plate of the Peltier element is condensing the moisture. The more it runs the more humidity it turns into liquid. If you need to run the Vino a lot, you'll need humidification that can quickly replace it.
 

mrreindeer

Gorilla
I'm close to pulling the trigger on my first Vino and found this on Target's website regarding a 34-bottle:

• It is a normal function of the unit for the temperature to fluctuate; the unit is designed to cycle and this fluctuation of 5 degrees prevents the unit from excessive cycling
• Features double paned glass door, thermostatic temperature control and sturdy shelf racking for individual bottle storage

http://www.target.com/Vinotemp-Freestanding-34-Bottle-Wine-Cellar/dp/B000KJRXH4
 

pbrennan10

Softball Pitcher
Correct, there is no air exchange. The RH drops because the cooling plate of the Peltier element is condensing the moisture. The more it runs the more humidity it turns into liquid. If you need to run the Vino a lot, you'll need humidification that can quickly replace it.
Since his vino is running marginally more than it should, it tells me the peltier element is not getting as cold as it should, and therefore not condensing as much fluid.

In summarization, I would be a lot less worried about any RH problems (which i believe will be non existant since the cooling process is obviously near failure) and a lot more worried about the gross inefficiency in your system.

Clear the vino's heatsink on back, move it away from the wall, ensure proper airflow on inside element, etc.
 

Scimmia

Unknown Specimen
I'm close to pulling the trigger on my first Vino and found this on Target's website regarding a 34-bottle:

• It is a normal function of the unit for the temperature to fluctuate; the unit is designed to cycle and this fluctuation of 5 degrees prevents the unit from excessive cycling
• Features double paned glass door, thermostatic temperature control and sturdy shelf racking for individual bottle storage

http://www.target.com/Vinotemp-Freestanding-34-Bottle-Wine-Cellar/dp/B000KJRXH4
That's because the 34 bottle one is compressor driven, not thermoelectric. The TE ones will run with a much lower temperature differential, although I'm not sure how much.
 

NoValidTitle

Young Ape
That's because the 34 bottle one is compressor driven, not thermoelectric. The TE ones will run with a much lower temperature differential, although I'm not sure how much.
Not to mention the compressor driven ones will make humidity much much harder to maintain.
 

rack04

Addie's Daddy
The problem is the efficency of the vinotemp. It has no chance to cool down to 57. Set it to 66 and see what it reads. What is your ambient temp?

From the manufacturers website
I'll have to quote my post as it seems nobody is reading it. The things are not efficient. The best you'll get is 10 degrees lower than the ambient. Raise it to 66 and see where it stands.
 

Scimmia

Unknown Specimen
I've run my between 15 and 20 below ambient, but you're right, they're not that efficient. If your ambient temp is high, set it to 66 or you're gonna have condensation issues at the very least.
 

romwarrior

Evolving Lead Gorilla
FWIW, I set my vino at 65 but it rarely goes below 69. My house is a bit warm so 69 works for me. I agree that the thermometer in the vino leaves a lot to be desired. Of course, it also depends a lot on the location of the thermometer since the front of the vino will be a bit warmer than the back, yet most people put their hygros in front.
 

tfar

Evolving Lead Gorilla
I can't really tell you what my Vino is set at because the LCD is broken and only shows some of the parts of each cipher. I do remember it would usually be pretty exact. Maybe two or three degrees off. Temperature in the house is around 80. I think Vino is set to 62 or 63 which turns out to be 68. It can cope with 80 very well. The only problem I had with it is that when the power goes out (and it does regularly; what a third world country) it resets itself to the 55 degree default.

That is too low! When I came back from a recent two week trip my cigars were too dry. I keep the humidity around 68 and it was down to 55 or so. Not catastrophic but had I been gone for four weeks...

Till
 
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